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Message 8035 - Posted: 7 Nov 2018, 13:09:28 UTC

FINALLY new app version 1.5 app is released for first platforms (Windows CPU and OpenCL). Biggest improvements are newer D.net Client and BOINC upstream changed to wrapper which both bring fixes and some new features. More information can be found in the changelog post at https://moowrap.net/forum_thread.php?id=206&postid=2265#2265.

As always, please report any problems getting work or having work fail more often in the relevant forum here. Note that there can be some confusion in the BOINC Scheduler as it tries to recalculate stats for best performing app variant for you (like OpenCL vs. native GPU apps).

PS. BOINC Server has also gotten some updates from BOINC developers so there's been lots of churn lately. The server migration is also progressing.
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Message 8038 - Posted: 7 Nov 2018, 17:04:32 UTC - in response to Message 8035.  

A little hint:

mcafee epo cloud detects the new app as Artemis!A8478C1EA9FD.
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Message 8039 - Posted: 7 Nov 2018, 23:17:42 UTC

When will the Server Status page reflect the new Application times

https://moowrap.net/server_status.php

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Message 8040 - Posted: 8 Nov 2018, 3:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 8038.  
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mcafee epo cloud detects the new app as Artemis!A8478C1EA9FD.


Which one? The wrapper app or the D.net Client? And this is the OpenCL app?

Looks like "Artemis" is codename for their heuristic detection, which usually have problems with new D.net Clients until they realize they are fine (so called false positives). More information about Artemis can be found in https://service.mcafee.com/webcenter/portal/cp/home/articleview?articleId=TS100414.

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Message 8041 - Posted: 8 Nov 2018, 3:59:08 UTC - in response to Message 8039.  

When will the Server Status page reflect the new Application times


Unfortunately, Server Status page doesn't go into version specific, just app level, so it'll have both v1.4 and v1.5 times and work status intermingled. The times will include v1.5 work as soon as there's results returned (there has been and there is increasingly).

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Message 8042 - Posted: 8 Nov 2018, 7:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 8040.  

mcafee epo cloud detects the new app as Artemis!A8478C1EA9FD.


Which one? The wrapper app or the D.net Client? And this is the OpenCL app?

Looks like "Artemis" is codename for their heuristic detection, which usually have problems with new D.net Clients until they realize they are fine (so called false positives). More information about Artemis can be found in https://service.mcafee.com/webcenter/portal/cp/home/articleview?articleId=TS100414.

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it is the dnetc521-win32-x86-opencl.exe
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Message 8043 - Posted: 8 Nov 2018, 20:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 8035.  

How do you make BOINC download the new 1.5 ?
I just did a project reset and got 1.4 again.
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Message 8044 - Posted: 9 Nov 2018, 1:51:38 UTC - in response to Message 8043.  

How do you make BOINC download the new 1.5 ?
I just did a project reset and got 1.4 again.


It'll happen automatically when the app is available for your platform. At the moment only nVidia OpenCL is out and the 64-bit CPU app is in beta (both for Windows). I'll get more released depending if there are any problems.

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Message 8046 - Posted: 9 Nov 2018, 19:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 8044.  

Ah okay.

Your change history post said: "Updated D.net Client for OpenCL (both AMD and nVidia) to build 521", so I was expecting it as well.
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Message 8050 - Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 4:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 8046.  

Your change history post said: "Updated D.net Client for OpenCL (both AMD and nVidia) to build 521", so I was expecting it as well.


Right, I agree that my messages haven't been that clear on what apps are out. One can keep an eye on the release progress in the https://moowrap.net/apps.php page.

I've released the Windows AMD OpenCL as a beta now and wouldn't be mind some people to flip the beta flag and try it out. The reason I'm doing staggering releases and beta is that I don't want to my main contributing apps to start failing for all work or something to that effect.

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Message 8052 - Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 17:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 8035.  

As always, please report ... having work fail more often in the relevant forum here.

The 1.05 app (openCL nvidia) was failing all work units after 9 seconds.
So I have updated all softwares (boinc, virtuabox and nvidia drivers) to their latest version
Now the 1.05 app (openCL nvidia) fails all work units after 17 seconds.

Core i7-4790, 16GB, Win 10 64b
GeForce GTX 980

All other projects using the GPU are running fine.
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Message 8053 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 8:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 8052.  

As always, please report ... having work fail more often in the relevant forum here.

Now the 1.05 app (openCL nvidia) fails all work units after 17 seconds.


Curious.. "can't run app: Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service." so I wonder what it runs out of..

Although, do you happen to run McAfee anti-virus? It seems to be detecting the new app for some reason but I suspect it's the age old false positive. If you could try to exclude Moo! Wrapper project from it's heuristic scanning and see if that helps?

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Message 8057 - Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 2:26:16 UTC
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Have you considered a BETA version update for the 1.03 (cuda31) applications to 105 ?

Also Dell builds a lot of Intel based laptops with Intel GPU's. Currently they will only run the
Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 1.05 (beta test)
app even though they are Open CL capable.

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Message 8058 - Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 14:12:54 UTC - in response to Message 8038.  

Hello,

McAfee Endpoint Security is now detecting dcnetc521-win32-x86-opencl.exe as a Trojan "RDN/Generic.RP"

Cheers.
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Message 8059 - Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 5:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 8058.  

EXCLUDE ALL BOINC PROGRAM and BOINC DATA folders from scanning by McAfee.

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Message 8062 - Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 7:35:11 UTC - in response to Message 8053.  

If you could try to exclude Moo! Wrapper project from it's heuristic scanning and see if that helps?

I have now done this, and Moo is running again. We had not needed this exclusion in quite while, so I had forgotten about it.
The tricky part was to include the exe file not only from the BOINC\projects folder but also in the BOINC\slots
Thanks for the help.
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Message 8063 - Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 8:18:53 UTC - in response to Message 8062.  

The tricky part was to include the exe file not only from the BOINC\projects folder but also in the BOINC\slots

Another tricky issue is that Moo can end up in different BOINC slots (obviously) and McAfee LiveSafe does not allow excluding whole folders and subfolders but only individual files in specific folders, so one has to kind of catch the dnetc client in the act in every possible folder.
So let's hope McAfee realizes this is a false positive sooner rather than later.
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Message 8064 - Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 18:52:27 UTC

with the new app all android apps are still failing...

https://moowrap.net/forum_thread.php?id=547
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Message 8065 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 13:57:20 UTC

I don´t get any work with AMD GPUs.

On my NVidia cards there is no Problem.
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Message 8066 - Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 0:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 8065.  

I don´t get any work with AMD GPUs.

On my NVidia cards there is no Problem.


I can second that
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