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Message 2602 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 5:41:00 UTC

Anyone else get this. It used to be manageable, but now with all 4 GPUs in one box it's 16 of them at once.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe
Application Version: 2.9103.509.0
Application Timestamp: 4d0a6e2d
Fault Module Name: aticaldd.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.14.10.1589
Fault Module Timestamp: 4e95edbd
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0017e048
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

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Message 2606 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 11:22:22 UTC - in response to Message 2602.


Fault Module Name: aticaldd.dll
Exception Code: c0000005


That seems to be a segmentation fault at the ATI driver level. I would concenrate troubleshooting efforts at the ATI installation on that host.

Sometimes Windows 7 Data Execution Prevention (DEP) is responsible for these faults if it's enabled for all/certain applications. Of course, if applications/driver does something like this, it would indicate a bug..

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Message 2663 - Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 10:06:52 UTC - in response to Message 2606.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe
Application Version: 2.9103.509.0
Application Timestamp: 4d0a6e2d
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.17725
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ec49b8f
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0002e3be
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.34 for windows_x86_64
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Data directory: E:\Program Files\BOINC1
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Running under account Game
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor: 256.00 KB cache
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt aes pbe
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Memory: 7.98 GB physical, 23.93 GB virtual
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Disk: 931.41 GB total, 921.40 GB free
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 6900 series (Cayman) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 2048MB, 3648 GFLOPS peak)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 6900 series (Cayman) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 2048MB, 3648 GFLOPS peak)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | Moo! Wrapper | URL http://moowrap.net/; Computer ID 9117; resource share 100
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Reading preferences override file
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Preferences:
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max memory usage when active: 4084.13MB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 7351.44MB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Not using a proxy
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Restarting task dnetc_r72_1329281179_13_778_0 using dnetc version 103
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Restarting task dnetc_r72_1329281176_15_782_0 using dnetc version 103
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
2/15/2012 1:49:41 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/15/2012 1:49:41 AM | Moo! Wrapper | No tasks sent

I have re-installed Windows, tried beta drivers, old drivers, and current and I can not get this error to go away. The error only happens right after a WU completes and tries to update. If I see it complete and i'm quick to click update I do not get the error.

any help would be appreciated!
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Message 2666 - Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 12:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 2663.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe
Application Version: 2.9103.509.0
Application Timestamp: 4d0a6e2d
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.17725
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ec49b8f
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0002e3be
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 6.12.34 for windows_x86_64
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Data directory: E:\Program Files\BOINC1
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Running under account Game
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor: 256.00 KB cache
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt aes pbe
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Memory: 7.98 GB physical, 23.93 GB virtual
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Disk: 931.41 GB total, 921.40 GB free
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 6900 series (Cayman) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 2048MB, 3648 GFLOPS peak)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 6900 series (Cayman) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 2048MB, 3648 GFLOPS peak)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | Moo! Wrapper | URL http://moowrap.net/; Computer ID 9117; resource share 100
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Reading preferences override file
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Preferences:
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max memory usage when active: 4084.13MB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 7351.44MB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/15/2012 1:49:37 AM | | Not using a proxy
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Restarting task dnetc_r72_1329281179_13_778_0 using dnetc version 103
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Restarting task dnetc_r72_1329281176_15_782_0 using dnetc version 103
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2/15/2012 1:49:38 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
2/15/2012 1:49:41 AM | Moo! Wrapper | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/15/2012 1:49:41 AM | Moo! Wrapper | No tasks sent

I have re-installed Windows, tried beta drivers, old drivers, and current and I can not get this error to go away. The error only happens right after a WU completes and tries to update. If I see it complete and i'm quick to click update I do not get the error.

any help would be appreciated!
Thanks


Try renaming the app-info file so it doesn't load and see if it works then, if so then you can see what is wrong in there.

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Message 2672 - Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 20:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 2666.

That was the problem but that was the only way I knew to run one GPU per WU. Do you know of a better way?

Thanks again

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Message 2680 - Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 12:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 2672.

That was the problem but that was the only way I knew to run one GPU per WU. Do you know of a better way?

Thanks again


There is a small program, let me look for it and I will get back to you.

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Message 2709 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 7:27:03 UTC - in response to Message 2680.

That was the problem but that was the only way I knew to run one GPU per WU. Do you know of a better way?

Thanks again


There is a small program, let me look for it and I will get back to you.



Interesting...

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Message 2714 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 16:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 2709.

That was the problem but that was the only way I knew to run one GPU per WU. Do you know of a better way?

Thanks again


There is a small program, let me look for it and I will get back to you.



Interesting...


Okay I found one thread that is similar to what you are doing now:
http://moowrap.net/forum_thread.php?id=215

Do NOT go just by the thread subject, it kinda bounces around but ends up with an app_info.xml file.

I am still looking for what I think I saw that is better!!

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Message 2735 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 2714.

Yeah, I attribute the problem to having more then 2 GPU's in a system and running 2 WU's per GPU during the fragmentation period(s) and the main culprit being Windows and driver problems.

I was having the issues when I had (8) GPU's in the system it was outta control on the APPCRASH's, if I left them to crunch 1 WU on the 8 GPU's together it was just too slow and the time from a WU finishing, and starting another one was almost 2.5 minutes, about half the time it took to complete a single "HUGE" WU with 8 5870s.

This meant the system was getting only 1/2 of what it could and just wasn't going to work for me. I made almost $400 profit on the (4) 5970s I had so it allowed me to get (2) 7970s, which honestly are great cards, but for the price, on this project, you could do 300% more work with (4) 5970s in 2 different boxes.

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Message 2780 - Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 12:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 2714.
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That was the problem but that was the only way I knew to run one GPU per WU. Do you know of a better way?

Thanks again


There is a small program, let me look for it and I will get back to you.



Interesting...


Okay I found one thread that is similar to what you are doing now:
http://moowrap.net/forum_thread.php?id=215

Do NOT go just by the thread subject, it kinda bounces around but ends up with an app_info.xml file.

I am still looking for what I think I saw that is better!!


I think I found it!!!:
http://bitsum.com/

ps it is FREE!!

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Message 2785 - Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 3:08:43 UTC

That doesn't spread the GPU work though, still need app_info for that. I've had PL for months.

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Message 2791 - Posted: 1 Mar 2012, 11:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 2714.

Well, I discovered something interesting... I have an HD6990 and when I use the linked app_info file, it says it is running one task per GPU, but seems to be using both of them anyway!

I suspended the pending tasks, then suspended ONE task and suddenly the GPU's go to 99% again... both of them.

Try detaching, reinstall clean drivers, rebooting and all the tricks... it insisits on using BOTH GPU's even when the app_info and the status line say it is using only one...

LOL!

I was wondering why it was taking so long...

:)

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Message 2793 - Posted: 1 Mar 2012, 12:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 2791.

Well, I discovered something interesting... I have an HD6990 and when I use the linked app_info file, it says it is running one task per GPU, but seems to be using both of them anyway!

I suspended the pending tasks, then suspended ONE task and suddenly the GPU's go to 99% again... both of them.

Try detaching, reinstall clean drivers, rebooting and all the tricks... it insisits on using BOTH GPU's even when the app_info and the status line say it is using only one...

LOL!

I was wondering why it was taking so long...

:)


Since Moo is not designed to be Nvidia friendly, you might be better off just excluding the Nvidias here and using them on GpuGrid or PrimeGrid instead. Most projects work better with one platform or the other, Moo is better with AMD. That does NOT mean it won't work with Nvidia cards, they just won't be at their best. Since they are competitors, Nvidia and AMD I mean, they do things differently, they get the same answer in the end though.

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Message 2794 - Posted: 1 Mar 2012, 12:07:23 UTC - in response to Message 2793.

Well, I discovered something interesting... I have an HD6990 and when I use the linked app_info file, it says it is running one task per GPU, but seems to be using both of them anyway!

I suspended the pending tasks, then suspended ONE task and suddenly the GPU's go to 99% again... both of them.

Try detaching, reinstall clean drivers, rebooting and all the tricks... it insisits on using BOTH GPU's even when the app_info and the status line say it is using only one...

LOL!

I was wondering why it was taking so long...

:)


Since Moo is not designed to be Nvidia friendly, you might be better off just excluding the Nvidias here and using them on GpuGrid or PrimeGrid instead. Most projects work better with one platform or the other, Moo is better with AMD. That does NOT mean it won't work with Nvidia cards, they just won't be at their best. Since they are competitors, Nvidia and AMD I mean, they do things differently, they get the same answer in the end though.


Umm, an HD6990 is an AMD/ATI card... like two 6970's on one card... and it happens to be in a box driven by a 3.75GHz 1100T CPU...

Soo, not sure how your comment applies to my problem...

:D

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Message 2798 - Posted: 1 Mar 2012, 17:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 2794.

Well, I discovered something interesting... I have an HD6990 and when I use the linked app_info file, it says it is running one task per GPU, but seems to be using both of them anyway!

I suspended the pending tasks, then suspended ONE task and suddenly the GPU's go to 99% again... both of them.

Try detaching, reinstall clean drivers, rebooting and all the tricks... it insisits on using BOTH GPU's even when the app_info and the status line say it is using only one...

LOL!

I was wondering why it was taking so long...

:)


Since Moo is not designed to be Nvidia friendly, you might be better off just excluding the Nvidias here and using them on GpuGrid or PrimeGrid instead. Most projects work better with one platform or the other, Moo is better with AMD. That does NOT mean it won't work with Nvidia cards, they just won't be at their best. Since they are competitors, Nvidia and AMD I mean, they do things differently, they get the same answer in the end though.


Umm, an HD6990 is an AMD/ATI card... like two 6970's on one card... and it happens to be in a box driven by a 3.75GHz 1100T CPU...

Soo, not sure how your comment applies to my problem...

:D


I thought you were talking about the machine that has these in it:
[2] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (1024MB) driver: 290.53

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Message 2800 - Posted: 1 Mar 2012, 20:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 2798.

Ohh. Nope... talking about the Win7-955 machine...

Used to have a 955 CPU... upgraded to 1100T a while back...


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Message 2805 - Posted: 2 Mar 2012, 11:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 2800.

Ohh. Nope... talking about the Win7-955 machine...

Used to have a 955 CPU... upgraded to 1100T a while back...
:)


Okay let's step back into your problem then, you said:
"Well, I discovered something interesting... I have an HD6990 and when I use the linked app_info file, it says it is running one task per GPU, but seems to be using both of them anyway!"

This is normal until you finish your first few batches of units then the software figure out you have multiple gpu's and starts running one workunit on all the gpu's. When I added a 2nd gpu to a machine a while back, it took 24 hours for it to figure it out. Now I do NOT use an app_info file, maybe you could disable yours for a day or so and see if this happens as a test, or if you are happy as it is just let it crunch.

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Message 2825 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 7:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 2805.

Faulting application name: dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe, version: 2.9103.509.0, time stamp: 0x4d0a6e2d
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7601.17725, time stamp: 0x4ec49b8f
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00033fbb
Faulting process id: 0xb28
Faulting application start time: 0x01ccfa9b932ae5fe
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\1\slots\0\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
Report Id: d14c144c-668e-11e1-b5dd-5404a64832d9

here we go again!

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Message 2828 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 13:02:10 UTC - in response to Message 2825.

Faulting application name: dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe, version: 2.9103.509.0, time stamp: 0x4d0a6e2d
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7601.17725, time stamp: 0x4ec49b8f
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00033fbb
Faulting process id: 0xb28
Faulting application start time: 0x01ccfa9b932ae5fe
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\1\slots\0\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
Report Id: d14c144c-668e-11e1-b5dd-5404a64832d9

here we go again!


I don't know but I see this for your pc:
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7
Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)

Yet above in the log I see "dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" could this be the problem? Are you running a 32 bit version of Boinc on a 64 bit machine? When I look at one of your valid units I see this.."dnetc v2.9109-518-CTR-10092920 for ATI Stream on Win32 (WindowsNT 6.1)". So maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but I do know that Windows 64 bit and Windows 32 bit handle memory differently!

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Message 2829 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 14:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 2828.
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This is the version of BOINC i'm using-
boinc_6.12.34_windows_x86_64

I re-installed with the 64 bit BOINC again and moo gave me
dnetc518-win32-x86-stream again. That is not 64 bit

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